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匈奴人、阿瓦人和征服匈牙利时期喀尔巴阡盆地游牧民族的Y染色体单倍型

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发表于 2019-12-10 19:33 | 显示全部楼层
wolfgang 发表于 2019-12-10 15:48
C4a1b不是典型的东亚支系,而是典型的阿尔泰一带的北亚支系。同样,这里的B4d1有可能也不是东亚支系,而 ...


    你是说本群著名的mt-B4d1大师不是东亚的吗? 估计他会严重抗议的~
发表于 2019-12-10 22:19 | 显示全部楼层
早期匈奴和中原有频繁的交流,一个O也没,到匈牙利的不见得是有多么纯的匈奴人吧.
发表于 2019-12-11 07:11 | 显示全部楼层

  估计 y-O主要分布于相对较为温暖的漠南地区,西迁的应该是北匈奴与西部匈奴(匈人)。
发表于 2019-12-11 17:26 | 显示全部楼层

    相对而言,阿瓦尔汗国的统治中心正好在现在匈牙利的地理中心区域,因此匈牙利共和国不妨可以称之为“阿瓦尔共和国”或“柔然共和国”,呵呵

匈牙利-阿瓦尔-马扎尔-墓地-一览图.png
发表于 2019-12-11 18:02 | 显示全部楼层

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墓地主人Kecskemét-Mindszenti-dűlő-RL 11/2785.很有意思。y是欧洲最常见的U106,常染明显带有东亚成分,葬俗是典型的匈人式的。在DNA检测之前,作者团队推测是匈人统治阶层分封到当地萨尔玛特人区域的诸侯。

During preventive excavation of the expansion of the Mercedes factory on the outskirts of Kecskemét town (Bács-Kiskun County, Hungary) in 2017, near a late Sarmatian-Hunnic age settlement a lonely nomadic niche grave was found, containing a wealthy young male with artificially strongly deformed Mongoloid skull3.     Grave orientation was North-South, grave goods included a dagger-sword, crescent shaped gold hair ring, a decorated gold leaf, which was probably the decoration of the knife’s handle, a belt buckle, another buckle which was suspended the sword, two boot buckles and a Murga-type pottery.
     All of the buckles were made of silver and plated with gold, which show Hunnic analogies. The grave can be dated back to the Hunnic period on the basis of its findings. The rite of this burial and the findings differ from the traditions of the Sarmatians, who lived in this area during this period. The richness of the grave goods refer to the high social rank of the deceased.
      The presence of this man suggests that after the arrival of the Huns into the Carpathian Basin, they appointed one of their nobilities as leader of this late Sarmatian community. The deceased could belong to this nobility.
发表于 2019-12-20 10:50 | 显示全部楼层
N-tat在7000年前扩张的支系是L708,时间是7500年前,来到贝加尔湖边的支系有可能是Y9022,M2126留在南方,M2126在6300年前的时候有次扩张,分为M2019和L1026,这次的扩张可能和原始农业畜牧业的扩张有关,M2019就是马扎尔人中的一个支系,不过看来后来是被同化的部分。L1026是现在TAT的主流,在距今4700年前发生了大扩张,分为Y6058和Z1936,这次扩张是渔业大发展的结果。Y6058又分为Y16323和CTS10760,Y16323就是阿瓦尔人所在支系,Z1936和CTS10760是乌拉尔系主流。Z1936也是马扎尔人中的一支,而且可能是文化的主要来源。
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